The problem with 'strategic' gameplay on kovaze
We live in a bubble. Evan once made a great point to me in outcasted. Why play shady and backstab people that hard when you are going to have to play with them on this site for the foreseeable future? The ONLY thing being shady and doing that to them lets them know is that you aren't worth their time, and you have potentially lost an ally for not just this game, but every game moving forward.
In actual survivor, you are likely only going to play with that group of people one time. Realistically you each contestant will only play survivor once. That is not the case with kovaze. We will see each other non stop. You have to cost risk analyze backstabbing someone, and if you choose to do so in a long game, you have to accept they might stop fucking with you entirely. So generally, it will be better to be team loyal, or at least not perform crazy like blindside backstabs. You will work up a reputation for yourself if you are backstabbing people left and right.
I can think of like 7-8 people off hand who I have been told to never work with under any circumstances because they will fuck you over for what seems like 0 logical reason. I have probably worked with all of those people and experienced it myself first hand with like 5 of them lol. SO- I personally find the best approach to be as honest as possible, and not blindside, but before a vote just gently let them know what I'm doing and why.
Kovaze is a marathon, not a singular race.
Just some food for thought I always think about this now bc of Evan.
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I think of it like The Challenge. You can play strategically but be prepared to do damage control.
I don’t run into this problem tbh because when I vote out a friend or ally I try to tell them why I came to that decision and if they’re gonna make me feel bad over it then I know to avoid them in games or not play so closely w them
that is a good point but i simply do not care and i will slit anyone's throat to advance at least one round further.
BRAT use that to your advance if you wish. it's quite clear when it's a game move to keep me, or not. and i respect the ones who get me out when they have to - either because i'm alone and i'm a solid loyal number, or because i'm ass at comps and it's easy to beat me. i don't respect the ones who are on the bottom of an alliance and vote me out (when i'm alone). that simply just isn't game. that's playing for the future games and i do not respect it and make these people my personal enemies.
tldr im so happy for you or im sorry that happened to you
HamtaroNugini baby...............................................................................................................this was MY think piece.
The thing is that no matter what you do, you are still being shady in a game. Like you can only really have TRUE loyalty to 1 person per game, it doesn't matter when you are backstabbing someone, eventually you will have to backstab someone. If people were to be more lighthearted about these games and acknowledge that every game you will have a different outcome when it comes to how you can win, then honestly everyone would be alright. The concept of feeling like you can never backstab someone is a bit self entitled because you are telling them that they have to choose you over anyone else, no matter how that outcome might look. At that point whats the point of even playing. Im like admittedly very shady in games, not because im really a shady person but because if im in a game why should i not try to win? If you hold a game against my personality in general it prob was not meant to be to begin with. Its always gonna be just a game for me, we can laugh about it after.
o_o so true chibi
o_o PREECH glances at certain people
if someone holds 1 game against someone for months to come then that is super petty! its a reality tv gaming site so backstabbing should be expected. i try not to hold onto things from game to game. forgive but don't forget!
Space This is a horrible take and completely misses the point. Why would you work with someone who would backstab you when you have several other choices who won’t? If you expect someone to backstab you, it’s pretty clear you should target them to make your life easier
Evan bc each game is a different game. if i backstab someone in a frenzy today, doesn’t mean im going to backstab them in a frenzy every single time we play together
Space it means your word means nothing in any given game, you’re not going to all of the sudden become stoutly loyal the next day. Your allies know that trusting you is a coin flip every time so why would they not rather have a sure option instead
Evan I don't think like that and others don't either. I have worked super well with people who have backstabbed me in prior games. I dont hold a grudge for eternity, it's just a game and I understand that
Space holding a grudge is not the same thing as playing strategically, I think that's the link that you and others like you miss. It has absolutely nothing to do with being mad at someone. If Person A is based in loyalty, and Person B is based in "let's backstab each other and not really care" then why would you ever choose B over A?
Space i was kinda gagged at how you said “well I don’t think that way” and then got mauled by several bears omg lol no disrespect to you evan but this was a lot
Evan lmfao I don’t think “this is a horrible take and completely misses the point” was fair to say to space at all. It’s a different perspective to yours people are allowed to have those lol
1 game win isn’t worth a lifetime of opps
till you log off the site....
That is why I try to play each game with a blank slate, especially in fast games. If is a longer game it just depends, but I'm still open but I won't forget...I probably already forgot, but I feel like people get mad over silly things and we end up with incidents like this gif.
NicoRobin humans have real emotions and not everyone does that though. We should not expect every person to just forget someone who they bonded with that hurt them even if it seems stupid to us. That's just now how the human experience works largely.
Dakota, You make a good point. It would be nice, but I have to respect that. I guess for me I don't really take it that personally (well I have my moment if needed and then be like okay cool), because most of the time once the game is over (good, bad, or ugly) that is it for that bond and I am like okay what now? Because either the time spent was for game purposes or they actually enjoyed it but that is a rabbit hole I don't want fall into and find out.